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Sunday, February 19, 2017

Sixty foot failure - Why are magazines afraid to measure in sixty feet?

February 19, 2017 0
Recently Jason Fenske of Engineering Explained calculated a clever theoretical zero to sixty miles per hour best-of time using the extreme threshold braking measurement. He used the sixty miles per hour to zero braking distance to calculate the time from 0 to 60mph. The braking shows the grip threshold of the tires. There are some problems with this. First the sixty foot should be the launch measurement. Second 0-60mph is only half the picture with too many variables and becoming moot with all-wheel drive.

Real world results of drag racing with street cars are obtained with the most participatory motorsport in the United States. Hundreds of drag strips across the country host hundreds of racers each on any given weekend or evening weekday. Whether minivans and Honda Civics, Prius or Porsches, and ever-present Camaros and Mustangs, they are all raced and the drivers get a timeslip with their results for each pass.  And on that timeslip is the sixty foot time showing how good the launch was. The magazines don’t do this. Dragstrips don’t measure the 0-60mph time. We have a discrepancy.

The 0-60mph measurement is becoming essentially moot among all wheel drive vehicles. Add more power and the time drops. With 8, 9 and now 10 speed transmissions, more aggressive gearing is even easier to make a vehicle quicker without negating overall mileage. Imagine hitting redline in first and second gear before hitting 60mph in under three seconds. So for all those AWD performance cars, does a 2.2 or a 2.4 second 0-60mph time really matter? Only in a stoplight race across the intersection. And assuming launch control is active, conditions are ideal and if an EV, has a nearly full charge.  But a sixty foot time tells the launch potential. Tesla now has the production car record 0-60mph. And the new 911 Twin Turbo S lifts the front wheels at launch per Motor Trend. What is the 60ft for both of these?

Rear wheel drive cars are not just limited to their street tires and a theoretical traction limit based on their braking distances. Weight distribution and transfer can vary, that is always a given. But surface and tire adhesion can be increased with substances like VHT which as a result decrease potential 60ft times. Also a very popular upgrade for better traction is street legal drag radials (“DRs”). Dodge is making history by equipping the upcoming Hellcat based Demon with DRs for the very purpose of better launch traction and hence a quicker elapsed time at the track.

So the NHRA and dragstrips across the country have been measuring the 60ft, the AWD cars are making the 0-60mph a secondary data point and now a car is coming from the factory with drag radials. A special mention should be made for the Mustang GT which comes with a line lock for allowing rear tire spin to clean and heat them up to make them more sticky. And of course Tesla, despite the only performance metric they excel at, for now having the 0-60mph record and bringing such attention to production car drag racing. Bottom line, the 60 foot time is long overdue for the magazines and needs to be incorporated in their testing.

Footnote:
An initial appeal was originally published on February 3rd, 2013:  http://cartruthblog.blogspot.com/2016/07/what-car-magazines-should-measure-part.html
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Monday, July 18, 2016

What car magazines should measure part 2 the Sixty Foot

July 18, 2016 0
Originally published February 3rd, 2013.
On weekends and weekdays throughout the year, thousands of amateur drag racers take their daily driven vehicles to the dragstrip to see how quick their car, truck or SUV is and who they can beat while finding out. It is great fun and a licensed driver can do it in any vehicle, minivans included! But the key to a great elapsed time is the “launch”.

When enthusiasts read magazine test results that don’t reflect their personal experience, or especially when it comes to rivalries, they lose interest. What would be ideal is to learn what a vehicle is capable of which would also tell if the published test result is the best potential run.

The launch is revealed to the racers on a printed timeslip handed out at the end of each ¼ mile race. The key measurement for the launch is the time it takes the vehicle to reach sixty feet. The difficult part is managing the available surface traction, tire grip and vehicle power. This is not related to the reaction time.

On street tires from the factory, the starting range is roughly very low 1.6x seconds for an exceptionally quick all wheel drive car. The upper range varies wildly and that is why we want to know what we can strive for. Is 2.0 seconds obtainable or is 2.2 the best we can expect? For every tenth of a second reduction, it translates to two tenths reduced overall in the quarter mile. Now you see why the times can vary wildly.

The thirteen second range, which is a decently quick street car compared to the masses, requires a helmet. Blow your launch, run 14s and now you’re “slow” like everyone else and all the spectators are saying you can’t drive…

Rear wheel and front wheel drive car owners and enthusiasts are the ones to gain the most here. Granted all-wheel drive vehicles can potentially launch harder, but the transmission and the gear ratios must allow for it along with engine power output. What if the car is capable of 1.8 second 60ft times and you’re only getting 2.0s? What can you do better? The magazines ought to provide this metric so owners know what to strive for and what the competition can do. Remember, there are thousands across the US doing this nearly every week, weather permitting. This is an opportunity to capture more subscribers.

The number of participants is far greater than those fortunate enough to track their cars on road circuits but we always read about threshold/emergency braking distances, handling, skidpad results and lap times. That is invaluable data, but it’s time to add another dimension that even more of us can relate to.

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